PSA: N1:Evidence of Trimming

[jcc6252]

Okay, I know I was taking a chance buying a raw card for the purpose of getting it graded and flipping it. But, it hit me harder than I thought when I checked my submission today and it showed:

N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1933 Sport Kings 38 Bobby Jones Golf

Now, I am left with a nice card, but possibly unsellable, especially for the price I paid. I bought it on eBay, do you think the seller has an obligation to issue a refund, even though his listing stated No Returns Accepted?

Here is the link to the listing:
http://http:www.ebay.com/itm/331510131479?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jim

[conor912]

I would let him know. Do it cordially and non-confrontationally. He's probably under no obligation to oblige, but it doesn't hurt to ask...he may be willing to work with you. The worst he can say is "go screw", then you're no worse off than you are now.

[jcc6252]

Great idea to do it gracefully, instead of in a demanding tone. And, I had to laugh about your last satatement, but oh so true!

[nsaddict]

He sells graded cards. Could be possible he tried to grade it and got the same results?

[Jobu]

I agree with asking because it never hurts. However, I would have your hiking boots all set so that you are ready when he tells you what you ought to go do because it says the card is authentic but I don't see any guarantees in the listing that it will grade numerically. Sorry that you might have lost out on this one.

[pclpads]

Sorry this happened to you. Your chances of a refund or an adjustment, if seller stated, "No returns," are likely slim and none . . . and slim just left the room. As Leon always says, "caveat emptor." There is probably a good reason why possibly the most in-demand card in that set isn't in a graded slab. Unfortunately, I think you just found out.

[jcc6252]

Hiking boots are ready. You're right, I think his description is good enough to cover his backside. After reading your posts, I figure there is a good chance he knew it was trimmed. If so, he may be even less likely to grant a refund.

Thanks for all your input and support. If I don't get a satisfactory response from the seller, and end up trying to sell it, I will certainly include the label from PSA for all prospective buyers to see.

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by jcc6252

Okay, I know I was taking a chance buying a raw card for the purpose of getting it graded and flipping it. But, it hit me harder than I thought when I checked my submission today and it showed:

N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1933 Sport Kings 38 Bobby Jones Golf

Now, I am left with a nice card, but possibly unsellable, especially for the price I paid. I bought it on eBay, do you think the seller has an obligation to issue a refund, even though his listing stated No Returns Accepted?

Here is the link to the listing:
http://http:www.ebay.com/itm/331510131479?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jim

Agree with Conor - I think you could mention it and see if he was willing to work with you on a return, but given his basic description, I'm not sure he has an obligation as long as the card is authentic.

To me, his 'very nice' description gives him an out. If he had tried to affix a formal/informal grade to it (i.e. this card is VG/VG-EX), I think you might have a stronger case. And even then, with the subjectivity of grading, it would still be a tougher sell. But his description is so banal that he's not putting himself out there. I don't even blame him for that since grading is so subjective.

It's tough because a lot of honest sellers probably don't even know if a card is trimmed. They might be more sympathetic to your plight since you have hard evidence - especially since they have a spotless feedback record.

Good luck -