14 Cady

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Damn anyone know who lucked out and bought this Cady?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Cracker...item2ed3ac6e2c

[sniffy5]

Maybe it's a 1915? Seller did not provide a scan of the back...

[Brian Van Horn]

Maybe. Maybe not. He had a number of 1915 Cracker Jack cards listed.

[GregMitch34]

Just a Hick.

[btkpath]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Damn anyone know who lucked out and bought this Cady?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Cracker...item2ed3ac6e2c

Ummmmm……..that would be me!!!

The front and paper stock look like a 1914. I agree that I have some suspicion about it being a '15 or '14, but I wasn't going to hesitate. The seller has over 11000 satisfied customers and a pretty good return/satisfaction policy. I will keep everybody informed. Not quite as nice as the Cady that is part of my collection, but it is rarer than the Pratt, so I took a shot…..

[tiger8mush]

wow, congrats Barry! Thats the kind of luck it'll take for me to own one. Hoping you scored a '14!
Rob

[sniffy5]

Barry, did you ask the seller about the reverse before you paid him??

[btkpath]

Hey Tom,

Nope didn't ask about the back or for a picture. I was considering it, but wanted to act quickly. The seller has over 11000 positive reviews on eBay and a pretty lenient satisfaction/return policy. You raise the same concerns that I share, but I decided to roll the dice. I am hoping that it pays off.

[GregMitch34]

If ya got $3900 there's a new Easterly CJ 14 up at ebay, PSA 7. In pop reports there's one PSA 8 and two PSA 7s, plus an SGC 8.5.

[sniffy5]

Barry, I'm just saying if I would have won it, I would ask the seller to confirm it's a 1914, as it was advertised as, before I paid him. If it turned out to be a 1915, I'm sure he would understand you not paying, as he would have been guilty of false advertising, innocent as it may have been...

[uniship]

Oh it's real (14), and it's spectacular. Congrats Barry!

[sniffy5]

Love the Seinfeld reference Eric!! How's your 1914 situation? Any progress?

[uniship]

Coming along slowly but surely. I need to take a 6 -12 month break tho and let these heavy hitters get their sets first. How about you?

[sniffy5]

I am only an observer. I only wish I had dupes to sell!!! I'm down to only a few...

[dtp717]

And Barry, if it IS a '15, I'll take it off your hands; I still need one for my set.

[btkpath]

Hey Tom, great idea…..I probably should have thought of contacting the seller AFTER committing to buy to make sure that it was a 1914, but just did not think of it. I will keep everyone posted regarding the status of the card.

Doug, thanks for the offer if it is a 1915. I have no idea what the market is for a 1915 Cady in this condition. If it is a 1915, I would either look to return it to the seller, or sell it for what I paid. I will keep you posted.

[btkpath]

Eric…….great Seinfeld reference…….I too think it is real and, if so, it is definitely SPECTACULAR!!!

[tiger8mush]

i agree Barry, let him get the card in the mail before someone else emails him and lets him know. We've seen it many times, so I think its better to just get the card in the mail. Even if its a '15, you'll either get your money back from the seller via refund or it'll likely sell for that price as a '15 anyway. But I agree, the condition (wear + caramel etc) its in makes me think its thin paper and thus a '14, not the thick stuff that '15s were made from.

Eric, I'm in the same boat as you ... I can't afford the new prices so I'm hoping they will cool off a bit sometime down the road. Till then, will keep hunting for bargains like Barry did!

Rob

[sniffy5]

Extremely wise on Barry's and your part Rob. Alert seller to nothing until it's in your hands. Don't know what I was thinking with that Monday morning QB advice!! I'm getting rusty..!!!

[tiger8mush]

haha, no sweat Tom. I think you may just be in a more relaxed frame of mind than the rest of us since completing your beautiful '14 set

[btkpath]

My '14 CJ set is definitely a fifth wheel as compared to Tom's!!!!


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[marvymelvin]

So, what do you all think this card should be worth in this condition if it is in fact a 1914?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by marvymelvin

So, what do you all think this card should be worth in this condition if it is in fact a 1914?

In the Poor/Fair condition it is in, my guess is a conservative $1-2k. Could be more. I'm hoping like 50 more of them pop up so I can get one for $200-300 in that condition

[btkpath]

It is interesting that in the past 8 years of data on VCP, there have been three recorded Cady card sales (including SGC, PSA, GAI, BVG and all grades), while there have been 9 recorded sales of the Pratt card. You just don't see the Cady card for sale very much!

[btkpath]

All,

I know everybody has been anxiously awaiting the answer to the question of whether this Cady card was a 1914 or 1915……

I hope this addresses that point.

I apologize for the delay, but I only opened the package today, as our mail was being held while my wife and I were on vacation for two weeks. What a pleasant surprise to return to….

I will more than likely be looking to either sell or trade the card to upgrade some others in my set.

[uniship]

Early bird gets the worm!!

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Congrats Barry!

[Brian Van Horn]

Barry,

Congratulations!

That said, I was happy when I sold mine. Whether it is the 1914 or 1915, the card gives me the creeps.

[tiger8mush]

Awesome Barry! nice pickup

[usernamealreadytaken]

Some guys have all the luck . . .

Probably sell that for twice what you paid . . .

[Theo_450]

Congrats! That is a super card. Just wondering, do you have a Pratt?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

Some guys have all the luck . . .

Probably sell that for twice what you paid . . .

I'll offer you triple

[wolterse]

Congrats and great find!

[btkpath]

Originally Posted by Theo_450

Congrats! That is a super card. Just wondering, do you have a Pratt?

Thanks Ted……Yes, I do have a Pratt, but it is only a PSA 1 (see below)

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Originally Posted by btkpath

Thanks Ted……Yes, I do have a Pratt, but it is only a PSA 1 (see below)

Great looking 1 Barry!

[Theo_450]

Originally Posted by btkpath

Thanks Ted……Yes, I do have a Pratt, but it is only a PSA 1 (see below)

That is an awesome 1! Does the back have issues, or did the slight registration issues keep it from grading higher? A couple great looking cards there!

[btkpath]

Originally Posted by Theo_450

That is an awesome 1! Does the back have issues

Thanks and great question Ted! Here's the answer…..

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Man that's a tough "1". I bet you get a two if you had it reviewed.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by btkpath

Thanks and great question Ted! Here's the answer…..

It's really nuts the variations in the grades. check out this psa2 compared to your 1

[Theo_450]

Whoa! Maybe we don't see something in the scans that the grader did, but that is worthy of liberating and resubmitting, and if it comes back as a 1 again, I would crack it out again and submit to SGC. I no longer own this card (auctioned it off last summer), but I must have caught the grader on a real good day. It appears to have the same registration issues as your card does. Note the shift of the grass to the right.

[btkpath]

Hey Ted, any 1914 Pratt is a beautiful card, although I guess I am a bit irked that these are the only two PSA 1 1914 Cracker Jack Pratts…..

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Barry you got F'd on that grade! Resubmit

[usernamealreadytaken]

I have found PSA really deducts for the surface "wrinkles" on 14CJs (like your Pratt). I have a couple that present like 3s or better but are PSA 1s or 1.5s

[Theo_450]

I'd be irked too Barry. I was actually pretty excited when mine came back as a 1.5. I would try to resubmit. Even with the wrinkles, I can see them in the scan, I think you got hosed.

[btkpath]

I have thought about regrading it, but I am very skittish about parting with it (even temporarily). I was considering bringing it to the National and discussing the card with PSA, but in the past (from what others have told me), PSA has not been apt to admit that they may have under graded a card. At the end of the day, I feel pretty lucky to own a Pratt and, regardless of the numerical grade, I am pretty happy with it. Plus, I bought it raw about 6-7 years ago for $500. The best $500 I ever spent in the hobby (the $135 on the Cady that is the topic of this thread is a close second).

[btkpath]

Originally Posted by Theo_450

Even with the wrinkles, I can see them in the scan, I think you got hosed.

In person the card actually looks much nicer than the scan would suggest.

[Theo_450]

Originally Posted by btkpath

I have thought about regrading it, but I am very skittish about parting with it (even temporarily). I was considering bringing it to the National and discussing the card with PSA, but in the past (from what others have told me), PSA has not been apt to admit that they may have under graded a card. At the end of the day, I feel pretty lucky to own a Pratt and, regardless of the numerical grade, I am pretty happy with it. Plus, I bought it raw about 6-7 years ago for $500. The best $500 I ever spent in the hobby (the $135 on the Cady that is the topic of this thread is a close second).

Well, $500 was a great deal! I guess that would soften the blow a bit. I am guessing that even with the grade it would go for over $3k now, eye appeal has a lot to do with the price it would fetch. Sounds like you will be holding on to it though, good choice there. Have to apologize to Mr. Cady for helping Pratt hijack his thread!