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Old 08-13-2013, 03:22 PM
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Default How Many Signed T206 Cards Exist?

A Net54 member recently asked me to estimate how many different signed T206 poses have been signed by their subjects and are currently in existence in someone's collection.

I own 39 different poses, if you count Mrs. Blanche McGraw and Mrs. Jane Mathewson on their husbands' respective cards, 37 otherwise:

HOF
1. Clarke (Batting)
2. Crawford (Batting)
3. Crawford (Throwing)
4. Flick
5. Johnson (Pitching)
6. Marquard (Portrait)
7. Marquard (Hands at Sides)
8. Marquard (Throwing)
9. Wheat
10. Young (Portrait)

FRONT SIGNED COMMONS
11. Barbeau
12. Carrigan
13. Doyle (Batting)
14. Doyle (Portrait)
15. Doyle (Throwing)
16. Jones (Davy)
17. Leach (Bending)
18. Leach (Portrait)
19. Leifield (Batting)
20. Leifield (Pitching)
21. McBride
22. Myers (Catching)
23. Meyers (Portrait)
24. Parent
25. Snodgrass (Batting)
26. Snodgrass (Catching)
27. Warhop

BACK SIGNED COMMONS
28. Blackburne
29. Bridwell (Portrait Cap)
30. Bridwell (Portrait No Cap)
31. Fiene (Portrait)
32. Fiene (Throwing)
33. Hoblitzell
34. Knabe
35. Livingston
36. Myers (Batting) [Signed Front & Back]
37. Rucker (Portrait)

In addition to these, I have seen scans of the following seven (7) additional poses from Jeff Morey's collection:

38. Bush
39. Cravath
40. Lajoie (Batting)
41. Lobert
42. Zimmerman
43. Wiltse (Portrait No Cap)
44. Rucker (Throwing)
45. Cobb (Green Portrait)

And I have seen credible proof of the following 10 additional poses:

46. Cobb (Bat On)
47. Cicotte
48. Clarke (Portrait)
49. Walsh
50. Phillippe
51. Chance
52. Speaker
53. Bresnahan (Batting)

So that's at least 53 different T206s signed by their subjects. I have heard claims about Stanage, Moriarty, and Schmidt signed poses from a Net54 collector, but I have never seen a scan so it is hard for me to credit the representation.

Other respected collectors own T206s that they believe were signed by McGraw, Jennings, and Bender -- but none of these have been authenticated by JSA or PSA/DNA or another respected third-party authenticator.

Renowned autograph dealer Phil Marks says that a bunch of signed T206 Bresnahans exist in private collections, but I have only seen the one batting pose on my website. I have never seen another, or the portrait pose.

Also, Shaw and Pattee lived into the 1970s -- in fact Shaw was the 3rd-to-last T206er to pass away, survived only by Livingston and Marquard -- and should thus be reasonably possible. But, I've never seen a scan of either.

So, I would guess conservatively that maybe 60 or so exist in total. I could buy into a more aggressive theory that maybe as many as 70 exist. But, I would bet the under on 75. Since the advent of scanned online auction images in the major auction houses over a decade ago there have been no other sightings than those listed here.

Still, it is exciting to imagine what could be out there lurking in private collections. One famed collector of T206 cards once sent me an email to tell me that he owned about 25. But, he never responded to my follow-up email about which ones he had. If only all collectors of signed T206 cards would post scans of their treasures, the world would be a better place for us all.

Please post here or email/message me if you know of any other signed T206 poses out there that I have missed out on seeing.

And, as always, post any signed T206 cards that you'd like to share here. I'll post my most recent acquisition:

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Old 08-13-2013, 03:30 PM
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I have one, a front and back signed Davy Jones.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:09 PM
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Here are a couple of mine.
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I posted these in a separate thread about a month ago when I visited the Elliott Museum in Stuart Florida. All were displayed raw and probably haven't been authenticated. I cannot attest to their authenticity, but they are displayed in the museum's baseball gallery:ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436242.824107.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436255.540422.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436267.503619.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436334.541722.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436351.211412.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436364.012736.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436380.024338.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436393.246308.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1376436406.242670.jpg

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Old 08-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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My one and only (just sold the strip card yesterday....)
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:34 PM
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I don't have any, (never collected autos) but if I could pick the green Cobb might be the one.......that is if no wajo portrait signed exists. Dave.
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I suspect with the premium they sell for, we will be seeing more of them. I would be more curious how many submissions get rejected by JSA.
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I hope we do see more of them. Thanks again to Erick for sharing his photos of his Elliott Museum trip. Could all of those be real? Wow.

I have had JSA reject a few over the years that I thought were good, including a Bender, and a Cicotte, which just about broke my heart. But most of my collection comes from two sources, the Pittsburgh Find of 2007, and Jeff Morey's collection. Morey's were all certified good, of course, and the Pittsburgh Find was also more or less all good, except for a secretarial Covoleski.
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My one and only (just sold the strip card yesterday....)
Nice Doyle's Brendan! Do you mind me asking where you acquired those? Larry Doyle is a distant relative of mine. I wasn't sure if he ever did many signings but I have seen a few signed index cards and maybe one other T-206. But I don't really follow auto's too closely so there may be quite a few of his out there. Anyway ... thanks for posting those!

PS: Too bad Doyle has never been elected to the HOF. He put up some good numbers!
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:56 PM
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The only one I have left:

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FINALLY someone posted pics from that museum, thanks eric!
Isnt it weird though that they just have hofers?
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Nice Doyle's Brendan! Do you mind me asking where you acquired those? Larry Doyle is a distant relative of mine. I wasn't sure if he ever did many signings but I have seen a few signed index cards and maybe one other T-206. But I don't really follow auto's too closely so there may be quite a few of his out there. Anyway ... thanks for posting those!

PS: Too bad Doyle has never been elected to the HOF. He put up some good numbers!
Cool that you're related to him, he was a great player. His autograph is plentiful on an index card.
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I am a huge Larry Doyle fan. He was one of the best players of that era, and one of the most prolific signers of T206 cards.
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FINALLY someone posted pics from that museum, thanks eric!
Isnt it weird though that they just have hofers?
There were some commons as well. Don't know if I missed some either a my kids were bugging me to move to the next exhibit.
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