Size requirements of 1939 Play Ball and a question

[Zan]

Hey dudes,

I recently submitted a 1939 Play Ball Sample Hank Greenberg card that had been graded a BVG 1.5 to be crossed by SGC.



And this is what I got back from them



So, my question is three-fold.

1. Why would Beckett grade a card that did not meet it's size requirements?

2. What is the difference between a card being 'small' and being trimmed?

3. Do you think that since the nature of the card is a promotion, or a sample, that it cannot be judged against issued 1939 Play Ball cards' dimensions?

Please provide some insight, just looking for some answers right now.

Brian

[chaddurbin]

beckett and sgc probably have different views about slabbing smaller cards. trimming occurs after it leaves factory. i don't agree with sgc stance. they grade oversized cards from factory, why wouldn't they grade undersized then? all factory cut should be slabbed.

[jcmtiger]

Strip cards are the cards that usually get those comments. Might be the right side caused card to be to small.

Joe

[Zan]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Strip cards are the cards that usually get those comments. Might be the right side caused card to be to small.

Joe

I did in fact measure it and it was short by about 1\8 of an inch. I understand their stance, the card is smaller. But if there is no evidence of trimming then i'm confused as to why it wasn't graded.

[pawpawdiv9]

related info of the card:
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=38331
1939 Play Ball Hank Greenberg Sample Card (#56)

This is an interesting specially produced card which was issued by Gum, Inc. only to retailers in 1939 when they were rolling out their first baseball cards. A small quantity of standard 2 1/2” by 3 3/8” cards from their very first set (#’s 1-115) were overprinted on the back with info advertising the new product, and to hopefully generate interest and sales. The additional promo text is printed on its side in red (over the standard back card text in black) and says “FREE Sample Card. Get your pictures of leading baseball players. Three picture cards packed in each package of “Play Ball America” Bubble Gum. At your candy store. 1¢”. This #56 Hank Greenberg card is otherwise identical in every way to a standard production cards issued in packs and a wonderful addition to any Tiger fan's collection.

READ THIS THREAD (from BECKETT)
http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread...t-1251998.html