The Most Desired Boston Garter

[teetwoohsix]

Looking at the checklists for the 1912,1913, and 1914 Boston Garter's I came to the conclusion that the 1913's would probably be the most desired (although each year's releases are all beautiful IMO) because Joe Jackson & Ty Cobb are in the 1913's.

Quite a few players were featured in 2 of the 3 years, but it seems only Tris Speaker made it into all three years (unless I'm missing something).

I do remember seeing a remarkable 1912 panel that was just mind blowing, I don't know if the owner is able to post still, but maybe someone has an image?

Just thought I'd try to start a thread about these and it would be great if anyone wanted to post some images of any of the three years of Boston Garter's, or just give their opinions/input on which year would be considered the most sought after (I don't know "scarcity" wise which is the toughest to acquire).

Thanks in advance-

Sincerely, Clayton

[barrysloate]

From a design standpoint, the suitcase series is most desirable, and the Mathewson card is a great rarity. But I do believe the Cobb and Jackson would be more valuable.

And the owner of the accordion lost his posting privileges , but it is probably findable in the archive.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

And the owner of the accordion lost his posting privileges , but it is probably findable in the archive.

Not that's funny, Barry!!

[Leon]

As a type collector I am fortunate to have the requisite one of each....I definitely put the first year ones (1912) as the most difficult to find, followed by the 1914s, then the 1913s. That's just my seat of the pants observations. I think the only thing that holds them back on being collected is their higher values than most other pre-war cards. Even commons are quite expensive relative to most other series

[zljones]

Thanks for showing those pics Leon, those are gorgeous cards indeed and I rarely even get to see pics. Those are up there in beauty near N162!

[drc]

The 1912 Mathewson. That people would pay more for others just says how dumb they are.

The 1912 is a unique issue in the hobby, in large part due the unusual graphics.

[drc]

A few years back a non-collector emailed me with nice scans of his 1912 Boston Garters, including a panel. He said they came from his uncle or similar relation (I can't remember) who had been a traveling salesman in Texas way back when. He was't interested in selling, just though I might like to see them and he wanted to know more about them.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by drc

A few years back a non-collector emailed me with nice scans of his 1912 Boston Garters, including a panel. He said they came from his uncle or similar relation (I can't remember) who had been a traveling salesman in Texas way back when. He was't interested in selling, just though I might like to see them and he wanted to know more about them.

Please post!

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

...I do remember seeing a remarkable 1912 panel that was just mind blowing, I don't know if the owner is able to post still, but maybe someone has an image?...Sincerely, Clayton

I am not the owner.

[atx840]

video

[HRBAKER]

Now you've done it, I feel like such an armpit collector again.

Never get tired of seeing those.

[irishdenny]

The Good ole' Brucey's

[ScottFandango]

Wow he bought the card for 1400 and sold it for $64000

Doesn't he feel bad that he ripped the school teacher off?


Thought only mrmint did this

[barrysloate]

The card actually sold for less than half the price he said it did. I believe the final bid was around 31K in an REA auction.

[2dueces]

Can we still sue archive even if our posting privileges are no longer available? I hate that archive guy. Keeps bring up old threads.

[Rickyy]

Originally Posted by Leon

Even commons are quite expensive relative to most other series

Touche Leon. I want one...but will just have to admire from afar...

Ricky Y

[teetwoohsix]

Thanks Leon & Craig for posting those images- awesome. Leon- am I reading it right on that flip? The Herzog is 1913 but (maybe it's my computer) it looks like it says 1914?

Thanks to everyone who posted.....video was classic.

These cards are also way out of my league but I seem to like the things I can't afford

And after looking at the accordian pannel and that Rucker of Leon's I can see why the 1912's are the most desired.

Thanks again-

Sincerely, Clayton

[2dueces]

I know the 1912 are by far the nicest looking but the 1914 Cobb is one of his best cards. No matter who owns that panel it's always fun to see it posted.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Thanks Leon & Craig for posting those images- awesome. Leon- am I reading it right on that flip? The Herzog is 1913 but (maybe it's my computer) it looks like it says 1914?

Thanks to everyone who posted.....video was classic.

These cards are also way out of my league but I seem to like the things I can't afford

And after looking at the accordian pannel and that Rucker of Leon's I can see why the 1912's are the most desired.

Thanks again-

Sincerely, Clayton

Hey Clayton
I didn't really go into it but I think the Garters are now considered 1912 for the suitcase variety and 1914 for the other two types, regardless of what flips say on them. Personally I like the 1912s the best too but they are all great looking.

[CW]

Originally Posted by White Borders

I am not the owner.

That picture has always perplexed me (and I am rarely, if ever, perplexed).

First of all, the angle and lighting on the piece actually prevent the viewer from seeing the real beauty of the sheet. Secondly, positioning the piece like that could lead to damage on the edges and put further strain on the folds.

I realize that condition doesn't factor into value too much on a unique item like that, but you'd think one would want to preserve it as best as possible for history's sake. Just a weird photo of a tremendously cool part of our hobby.

(I hope Anthony, aka Griffins, didn't shoot that photo, because I just ripped his work apart )

[MikeU]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The card actually sold for less than half the price he said it did. I believe the final bid was around 31K in an REA auction.

That was without the "we" or plural buyers premium.

[benjulmag]

It's my understanding Walter Johnson was issued in the 1912 Garter series. I have never seen an image of one. Does someone have it to post?

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Clayton
I didn't really go into it but I think the Garters are now considered 1912 for the suitcase variety and 1914 for the other two types, regardless of what flips say on them. Personally I like the 1912s the best too but they are all great looking.

Thanks Leon, that works for me. I must admit I got pretty confused because I'm looking in a 4 year old Beckett big book (which I use for checklists & to look for types I'm not familiar with) and they have a picture of the 1913 that looks nothing like the description they use for that year (like your Herzog, the description does describe the 1913 year). The card they show in the book appears to be a portrait shot of Waddell with "American League Champions" above his head and "Athletic Base Ball Team" below him. He's not even on the checklist........and the card shown looks familiar to me, but as another type of card. This could be an error, I don't know. 2008 edition on page 89 if anyone wants to look.

I'm going to go with the 1912 suitcase version and the other two types I'll figure are 1914

Corey- I do not have an image of the Johnson but he is on the checklist- I'd love to see an image myself.

Sincerely, Clayton

[FourStrikes]

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