1960 Fleer Grove/Collins Martin Back Help Please

[budob]

I am fortunate enough to have this card, just back from PSA for authentication and grading:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:AAQ:US:1123

The PSA Population report doesn't appear to list this particular variation on the card - the only "Canceled" version shown in the Pop Report is titled "Joe Tinker.. Martin back - Canceled".

Is the card I have yet another variation which PSA has not placed in their Pop Report?

Also, my impression is that "Canceled" means there should be a hole in the card somewhere - might this card just be mislabeled?

I'd appreciate any and all insights

Bud Obermeyer

[budob]

Sorry, link is bad:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lefty-Grove-...item336f1011ab

[Griffins]

this looks like another PSA label screwup.
Your card isn't cancelled- the cancelled ones have a huge notch out of the bottom. Yours is also obviously Grove/Martin, not Collins/Martin.
PSA often did not list them as cancelled early on, so it's not surprising the pop report is screwed up. They also didn't downgrade them for being cancelled, which is why there is a PSA 7 or 8 with a huge gouge in it.
In the last 11 years I've seen Grove/Martin cancelled, handcut, and factory cut.
I've seen Collins/Martin and Tinker/Martin hand cut only- they seem a lot scarcer than Grove/Martin, although all 3 are among the scarcest post war regular issue cards.
Bottom line is toss out the pop report on this card, it really doesn't mean anything. I'd much rather have yours that is uncancelled than a cancelled one with a higher numerical grade.
Best of luck with the auction.

[budob]

Thanks for the info Anthony!

[ALR-bishop]

The cancelled one are not nearly as nice as the hand cut ones. I have not seen one of the factory cut cards Anthony mentions but agree the Grove is the most common on the 3. I had thought 6 combos of the 3 cards were possible, 3 hand cut and 3 cancelled ( based on SCD) but maybe if Anthony is correct only the Grove can be found cancelled. That would make only 5 versions ? I have the Grove hand cut version

[Griffins]

Al- here's mine, uncancelled and factory cut. A bit oversized and obviously oc