I don't know Joe and never talked to him before bumping into him at the National. Very friendly guy especially with someone he had never met before. He was willing to chat. I just casually mentioned his leaving Collectable. He said Collectable turned out in just a short amount of time to not be the right place for him. He did not criticize Collectable or the people there, and said the fractional ownership has its place in the hobby. He seemed proud of his time at PSA but we did not talk about his departure. It will be interesting to see what his role is at Heritage and how he fits in with the existing Heritage hierarchy and what he winds up doing.
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