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Old 05-18-2021, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfanNY View Post
Unfortunately we live in a time where forgers fake bats using old wood in a barn with old equipment. Faking paper is less expensive than faking wood. Old stock printed on an old machine and you have a license to print money.
In 1934 General Gum of Chicago issued a non sport set of "Funnies" the set was well documented. How likely is it that General Gum issues a series of 8x10's along with Baseball Gum and nobody picks up on it? The ACC , The Sports Collectors Bible, Sterling, Beckett/ Eckes, SCD. Nobody has a record. This is not some small Dog food outfit. This is a Large Candy Manufacturer in Chicago. And with the Dog food issue there were ads in local papers advertising the series. This is Chicago lots of papers lots of ads....any about this series?
And if it was found with a large collection of Yankee Letters and Contracts...Where are they?
How many red flags dose there have to be? How many signs hang in dens that are fantasy pieces printed on tin and aged. They usually come with a great story of how flea market sellers dad took it home from the local hardware store on main st. But Grandma left it out in the garage where it rusted...
it is just so so easy to find General gum non sports cards from 1934, it shouldn't be this hard to find a baseball issue from the same manufacturer.
The lack of prior info or cataloging on the set is hardly determinative. How many sets remain unknown as to manufacturer still today? R315 and W517 are from the same era and yet their origins remain unsettled. M101-4 Sporting News were not known for more than 40 years after issuance, and Famous & Barr 15 years or so after that. New discoveries or clarifications are uncovered from time to time.

"How likely is it that General Gum issues a series of 8x10's along with Baseball Gum and nobody picks up on it?" Well, let's look at what are classified as P4 pins. Apparently, they were classified by Burdick as an anonymous issue, and so too in the Sports Collector's Bible. Yet for years they have been called Cracker Jack pins, and are still graded as such. But around ten years ago or so, an advertising poster surfaced that shows they were distributed with Button Gum, along with non-sports subjects. The manufacturer of Button Gum was General Gum, Inc. of Chicago-- the same outfit identified in the OP's display piece. Here's an OC story on the topic:
https://www.oldcardboard.com/eNews/2...eNews159.htm#2

So whether or not you consider it "likely", it has happened before.
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