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Posted By: Peter Spaeth

The speculation that there is "before and after" photographic evidence concerning the Wagner has always been one of the most intriguing aspects of the story, and of course it has existed long before the publication of this book. Was Alan Ray prescient enough to take pictures of the card before he sold it, for example? But aside from further speculation about who might possess such evidence, nothing seems to have come of this.

To answer Mike's question I am not sure photos from the 80s would necessarily be "old [and] fuzzy" and I am not sure I follow what seems to be the premise of his post, namely that O'Keefe would necessarily be the one making the judgments from the photos. If they were published in the book or the internet for example wouldn't we all be able to make judgments? Perhaps I misunderstood the question.