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Originally Posted by irv
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For sake of argument let's assume it is true that this 'vaccine' is very harmful. Science, cultural, and political institutions and their adherents can not possibly ever admit that they forced injections of an untested drug that turned out to kill thousands of healthy young men who were at basically 0% risk of dying from Covid in the first place. Studies won't be done, or they will be constructed in such a way as to dictate the outcome. If it is false, this is exactly what would happen as well. The response given to this claim will be the same without any regard to actual fact whatsoever.
Link 1: A stroke season. That's news to me lol.
Link 2: This is anecdote. Anecdote isn't proof; though in a normal world repeated anecdote in large quantity like this would lead to a genuine inquiry - to test the claim using proper controls and an unbiased test. This is what will never actually happen.
Link 3: That a video or statement is hosted on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook does not, obviously, invalidate the video as much as people want to screech that. The raw video of Parliament would be better than this guys analysis and chosen clips. The video of the statements doesn't really answer where the excess deaths come from, ideas are thrown about to explain why it is that excess deaths are over Covid deaths. This doesn't even allege though, that it is the vaccine. His thesis is just that there is lots of excess deaths and the government isn't even seriously trying to explain it. That much is true. That doesn't mean the vaccine is the cause though. It could be many other things; people hiding in their basement for three years in panic of a disease posing most of them near 0 risk is surely very unhealthy. People did not get cancer screenings, proper exercise, etc. for much of 2020 and a significant chunk of the population is still living like the Black Plague is about to kill them, at least in leftist ares.
Link 4: This is good. This alleges in the testimony that there are multiple scientific studies showing the excess mortality rate is higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. Do you have these studies or where to get them? If there is a 52% increased mortality risk over Covid itself, that's proof of your claim. Again, that the testimony video is on YouTube does not make the testimony false.
Link 5: This is a different issue, on which I think we 100% agree. Again, a video being hosted on Twitter does not invalidate the video. The comments and such are junk but a video either is or is not the video of the event. A News clipping is not invalid because of the hosting platform, as any leftist will accept if the video clip furthers a leftist narrative. The so-called vaccine does not, obviously, have much of any statistical value to most people. The reduction in absolute risk is almost 0, using the official state-sanctioned data. It doesn't really address whether strokes actually are significantly increased.
At the end of the day, we should stick with what can be proven, and seek the proof for claims, whether or not the actual truth suits our politics or the agenda of institutions or whether it makes posters we rage at happy or unhappy. For a non political example, if person A points at a yellow car and says it is black, that is untrue. But if person B then says no, it is white, that is also untrue. The most opposite claim to a false claim is not always true. Link 4 might lead to some facts here. That's where to go, pull those studies and see if they show what is alleged here in the testimony. If it does, you've got actual proof, from a scientific study and you'll get to watch everyone else's argument get even more illogical.