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JKBarry, I also find the slabbers v. raw fights amusing - however, I dont think its each not accepting the other's point of view. I rarely see pro-slab collectors go out of their way to start threads discussing how stupid or bad it is to collect raw. On the other hand, I routinely see raw collectors (or more precisely, anti-slab collectors - since not all raw collectors are against grading) starting these threads or making little digs at slabs. Perfect example - the recent thread started by Don J. about the fake cobb - despite it being clear from Don's first post that the SGC slab was split open and glued back together after the fake cobb was inserted, there were two posts, both by collectors with known anti-grading views, and both implied that somehow it was SGC's error.