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Paul SI thought Marc S had a good point and I hope he doesn't mind me launching from it. Society has expected norms of social conduct in any given situation/place, and people who fall too far out of its expectations for too long a time are usually fired at jobs, shunned by their friends, or generally ostracized (no, not changed into a giant flightless bird with a long neck). Hopefully before that happens they are given warnings by their boss, or a friend tells them how they feel about their actions, etc. In this case it happens to be an online forum. Same type of rules apply. A person can't be around here and continually complain about the place and not know what to expect. Jay is smart enough to realize that. In this case Jay had an option and choose what he did. I think he did it to himself. In Bruce's case he ("they") chose to cease and desist.