[Box-Cards]

Moving along plugging in individual years for the record, help is needed with these 3 Clay-Ali cards. First two are from Mexico, the other from Germany.

Both of the Mexican issues were seller described as '70s. The second one with Ali-arms raised (stated size about 2" x 3-1/3rd"), the size and claim its a "circa 1970" is all I have to go on... possible help with not only its actual year but proper name/ title or series, and who issued it, would be great.

First card is a cardboard Mexican blank-back: #4 "Ediciones Deportivas."

The last German one is by Hitscler Gum and appears to be numbered "20." It may even have been a wrapper rather than an actual card (?). Leland's put two of them up in the past in separate auctions describing them as cards; first listing it "circa 1960s" and much later as simply "post-1964."

I seem once to remember believing it was instead issued in the 1980s but can't find any notes written down that support that. Anyone who can help?

Thanks...