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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper
I don't see why so many turn this into an all or nothing scenario. Can't we like both Jim, Richard and the credible TPAs?
I am usually pretty comfortable with authenticating the material I buy myself. But sometimes I want something and don't have the time, energy or desire to study the signature for months to develop a sound level of expertise in it. Maybe I want a Hideki Irabu signed photo and really don't feel like becoming a Hideki Irabu expert in the process... I just want the damn photo to put in my collection and move on. It doesn't make me a bad guy -- it makes me like 99% of collectors. And this is where dealers and TPAs come into play.
Of course I would prefer to patronize a longtime and reputable seller like Richard or Jim first, and if I bought from them I would have a high degree of confidence in their offerings.
But let me ask... when was the last time Richard or Jim had a Derek Jeter bat? What about an Albert Pujols ball? What about that Hideki Irabu SP... Jim can you help?
No dealer -- or small group of dealers -- is the complete solution unless you have a very tight focus.
Despite the claims of some, in my opinion, PSA and JSA are highly accurate in most cases. Certainly there are areas where they could likely improve. But they are a reliable opinion in the vast majority of cases. I would buy a Derek Jeter bat from eBay with a PSA or JSA cert with full confidence. With Mantle, Williams, Maris and DiMaggio, I can't recall ever seeing them cert a clunker. I could go on, but you get the point.
Now, if I hit the lottery and wanted to invest in a Babe Ruth single signed ball, I would not rely on anyone's sole opinion. In all due respect, if I bought one from Jim, I'd ask for a second opinion from Richard and vice-versa. If it had a TPA letter, I'd get second opinions too. This just seems to be common sense with a high value / high risk item.
* In the interest of full disclosure, I am the space consultant for JSA. I have examined hundreds of items for them and give every one my best thinking and effort. I have never been rushed, influenced to opine one way or another and I am never told who the submitter is.
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Do you thinkg Spence and Grad spend months studying every single signature they opine on? You are delusional! They authenticate thousands of different sigs, and how do they spend MONTHS on each one studying in order to be competent on each of those autographs? They can't, but why do you think they are experts at all of those then? Did they spend months studying terry bradshaw, then olga corbett, then laurent fignon, then soupy sales. C'mon!
They are not highly accurate, if they were, there wouldnt be a zillion joe louis autograph 'paperwieghts" out there with both psa and jsa authentication on them. what a joke!
I showed a run of 141 bad ali autographs from abc corp. how is that HIGHLY ACCURATE???? Would 141 nearly consecutive bad neil armstrong signatures impress you? Would they still be HIGHLY accurate? Or do you just not care because its a signature from a sport that is not YOUR favorite? What if it was? wouldn't you think they are ruining your beloved hobby? Of course you would. Grad and Spence should be ashamed of themselves for what they pass having no business even opining on them.
How can they be 'experts' at 20,000 different names and dozens of different sports and entertainment categories. They CAN'T that's how. JSA says to send in your Brazilian soccer league autographs. I suppose they brushed up on their Brazilian soccer autographs? Hell no! They must be big Brazilian soccer fans from way back over there at JSA. Guys who job it was to put the JSA sticker on the item are now authenticators. they got a promotion and now THEY are the big experts too. Nobody ever heard of these guys. It takes decades of experience, not putting the stickers on for a couple of years.
AGAIN, WHAT A JOKE!