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Old 02-20-2013, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy View Post
It's more than that. He ATTEMPTED to sell/trade it. He offered something that he doesn't have. That is fraud whether it was attempted or carried out. It's still a crime. Period.

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It is fraud, or his actions have been fraudulent by definition, but what he has done to date does not constitute criminal fraud.

He has offered to sell/trade it, but he has not actually attempted to sell/trade it, not yet anyways. It's an important legal difference between the two terms. For criminal fraud, consequent damages must have been suffered by the someone (the plaintiff, or an undercover agent in the case of a sting operation) in order for an act to be consider criminal fraud. In other words a transaction needs to have taken place, or have been attempted, before he could be charged with fraud.

Yes, he’s being fraudulent but he has not committed criminal fraud…yet.
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