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Old 04-22-2012, 04:43 PM
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Were they saying this kind of stuff in the 80s? Because if they were, just counting pitchers who began their careers post-1985 the following pitchers won 300 games:

Roger Clemens
Randy Johnson
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine

If you look at 3,000 hit players who began their careers after 1985 you have:

Craig Biggio
Derek Jeter
Rafael Palmeiro

More 300 game winners.
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