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Old 03-28-2012, 09:40 AM
travrosty travrosty is offline
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its because they havent fixed the problem, they knew about it for a long long time, and still havent fixed it.

to only go after the 'bad guys' is ridiculous, because who is bad, who is good? do we have to limit our discussion to convicted criminals so no one can question that we are going after some bad?

Instead of that, I go after BAD PROBLEMS with the hobby, whether the entity responsible is good or bad, or in the middle.

If people don't like it that we had to show stuff a dozen times about this one auction house, well, then you can blame the auction house for that, because they had ample, time, opportunity to fix the problem, and they chose to wait it out, they thought we would get tired and it would blow over.

It took numerous, numerous mentions to get them to do anything. i am sick of posting heritage's autographs that look funky and have a precert or auction loa with them also, but in order to get results and reform, what would i do instead??????????

sending them a private email discussing my concerns not only got me nowhere, but i was told to go away. I tried to do it quietly so no one could know and it wouldnt be a big deal, but they would have none of that.

As far as the positive side of the hobby, i think getting heritage to stop this practice of precerts and auction loa's where there is none is a monumental POSITIVE thing for the hobby. Or is it a negative thing? why would it be a negative thing if they started practicing truth in advertising? we demand it everywhere else.

All i have ever done is stuck to the facts with heritage. if they are friends of someone and people don't like it, i am sorry, then there should just be a list of who we can and who we can't criticize when we see something going on in the hobby that we feel is wrong.

If they had corrected the problem, what could I post about them. I agree, if I continue posting about a problem that was corrected, that would be overkill, but it continues to go on, doesn't it?

Is there anybody on this board that thinks what heritage is doing with advertising precerts and auction loa's when the company hasn't looked at the items yet with these preview and live items is NOT wrong? anyone? I would just like to know.

and if people agree that this practice isn't kosher, why go after the people that bring it up? It's hard enough to put yourself out there open to the slings and arrows that inevitable come your way when you stick your neck out and point out a huge auction house and I am what, one little person. It's intimidating enough.

That's why a lot of people never come forward, and some of these things continue to go on for a long time. People are afraid and don't want to get involved.

i never said heritage is ripping people off. but what they are doing IS a problem.


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ht=house+cards

Read this thread from beginning to end. Many card buyers saw what they perceived to be a problem, and the auction house defended their actions a few times, but it was only after a dozen people continously posted over and over again, over 14 pages worth on a 20 page post, before the auction house said they will not do it that way anymore.

I didn't see anyone say "just go after the bad guys."
why is that?

Why let Huggins and Scott squirm (they are good people too!) but defend Heritage and to basically say 'let's move on'?

Gosh I am going to get in trouble for thinking out loud again.

Last edited by travrosty; 03-28-2012 at 09:54 AM.
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