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Originally Posted by mrvster
I only think that UPSIDE DOWN BACK FACTORY CUT NEEDS TO BE ADDED to the mainstream list above uzit....the other list IS AN ALTERNATIVE LIST 
i think your missing the point....
UPSIDE DOWN BACK NEEDS TO BE ADDED(doesn't matter if a 4 back or 2 or 3, can even be a scrap if there is controversy)!!!!! imho above uzit or right at bl 460/ actually rarer than bl 460 imho come to think about it...............Why have Brown old mill cobb and blank back on the mainstream list???????????? all 3 weren't even issued to be distributed in packs????? most upside down backs (except for the printers scrap if u are able to differentiate) are FACTORY CUT.....they have more of a right to be on the list than the others listed above, heck, someone got them in a pack and probably tossed them cause they were "defective"  ......
Jared, i think your resistant to change in all due respect.....
CHANGE MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND....
how do we improve lists and things in our life if we don't change??
years ago no one cared about t206 errors and alot of collectors didn't give a crap about rare back t206, now look at them 
Yes- things have changed....collectors become more educated when more info is shared and we have forums like this, brainstorming, free flowing ideas, the internet, talking with other knowledgeable and expereinced collectors ...
and yes being wrong(cause i am wrong sometimes  )....but this time i know i'm right
AND THANK GOD T206 RESOURCE.COM!!!
i can finally reference backs/checklists etc because i'm a little unorganized sometimes...
Jared- i love your input, but that error list was my feeble attempt to classify and organize a semi cohesive list of all these freaks around meLOL
thoughts???
help????
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Mrvster,
With all due respect I believe I have already addressed all of your questions in my early posts if you read them. Not resistant to change so long as there is a reason for it. Just wanting the upside down backs on there isn't enough since it doesn't fit with the overall premiss of current list. So I'll say it once more though. Being factory cut or not isn't the reason that lists exists. It exists because all of the cards on that list are substantially different from anything else on the list whether it be by it's print or it's color. An upside back does not belong on the list because it is no different than any other card on the list and I can prove it to you.
Here's how, every card on the current list can stand on it's own, as being unique with no relation to the front of the card.
In point, why not add every player with a SC 150 factory 30 to the list? I mean, my SC 150 factory 30 Cobb is different from my SC 150 factory 30 young because of what's on the front of the card. That makes the back different, right? Does that sound reasonable? If so then we should be adding several hundreds if not thousands of cards to the back list!
When you think of it that's all that differentiates an upside down back from any other common card; it's what's on the front.
Where as back to my point that every card currently on the list stands on it's own as unique, regardless of what's on the front, hence it's called the back list.
One more example is if you put all the current cards on the back list, ungraded in a pile and asked someone to tell you how many different cards there are without flipping to the front, you should get the total number of cards on the table. Throw in a few upside down backs and the number won't change, why?
It goes back to there is nothing unique about an upside down back until you flip it over. Therefore it doesn't belong on the current list.
Jared