[travrosty]

so you are admitting i am right and you were wrong, good.

i didnt have that third one in reserve waiting to spring it on someone, i honestly didnt think anyone would actually refute the first two as not being signed in the same hand, since they obviously are.

after you posted, i did remember that third one was out there, and went and got it to prove my case. my case was proven, yours wasn't. I cant help it if you were wrong.

of course you arent interested in any other exemples. It's devastating to your case.

my only question is now, after seeing the third one, do you still believe the first two are signed in different hands? if you can't answer yes or no, i guess we know the answer.




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The two companies you bash, on a whole, actually do a relatively decent job in my opinion.


this is why you refuted the obvious, you like them, and you defend the indefensible. that's your right. it was obvious they were both in the same hand, but you couldnt deal with it because you probably have a bunch of psa or jsa items. well good for you. my observations are still true regardless. They bragged about calling one a forgery that could fool most people, and then they had previously certed that same type in an ad they used to puff out their own chest that they are so darn good.

it's embarrassing for them, not me. I did no such thing. If you like them and want to defend them, good, but don't put a technical comparison on what is an emotional issue for you. I knew they were from the same hand because I could see the obvious. I didnt have a third photo smoking gun ready to pounce, but when you challenged the obvious, it's my duty to back up my observation, which I did. I am sorry it didn't work out for you.

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Note that I haven’t expressed nor do I intend to express an opinion as to the authenticity or lack thereof of any of these Ruth’s. I’ve never studied his signature in depth, and don’t plan on starting now. I’m just trying to demonstrate what a lot of us reading on the sidelines are feeling IMO, in regards to all of the, “this is a forgery”, “this is good”, “I just know”, etc. etc. etc.


For not studying Ruth's signature in depth, you did state your opinion as to whether or not they are signed in the same hand, do you retract that opinion? If you haven't studied his signature in depth, then why all the fancy baselines, and lines here and there to try to prove they weren't signed in the same hand, or did you just think you could get away with it? It was obviously signed in the same hand, and I haven't seen anyone else try to refute it. It was a slam dunk.

You are trying to make this something against me. when it is psa and spence that did it! you are using transference to take it out a frustrating and embarrassing occurrence that you and others don't want to see the light of day and putting it on the person who brought it to light. It's called shooting the messenger.

you lost, and all i want for you do to is to give your opinion that you still believe that these three photos were not all signed by the same hand. if you still believe that, i wont comment on it anymore, and we can just leave it at that. If you can't say that, then you can't deal with what you know to be true deep down inside, because it is injurious to your position that they are good, and do a super job, and should be supported, when who can support this craziness anymore. How much more do you need to see?

bogus items of Ruth with certs sell for thousands and thousands of dollars, and how much are they really worth? And for them to brag that they know Ruth when they cert the same kind they call a forgery that would fool most (in other words they say that we are all idiots, because we are MOST, but they aren't, they know what they are doing) is insulting, arrogant, pompous, presumptious, embarrassing, inexcusable, and indefensible.

for people that defend this madness, it is anything and everything but the autographs. It's never about the autographs.

I will let you have the last word. Go ahead and smash me a good one because psa and spence can't seem to get the autographs right, which is my only concern, and the only point i am trying to make.