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Old 01-23-2012, 08:14 PM
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Hi everybody ... yes, I can certainly prove that I bought it and returned it. I have proved it to another poster already, who has been kind enough to back me up. The seller only grants returns if item not as described, and she granted it right away, so that essentially backs me up.

The additional flaws were not devastating but it did significantly reduce its value ... not to a value of $0, but perhaps something in the neighborhood of $800-900 which is what one sold for awhile back in a Hunt Auction. It wasn't worth what I originally bid, due to condition flaws that were not described and pictures that were not representative. This is why I returned it. By the way, you can find this pennant in a Hunt Auction search. This pennant and that one have different flaws that probably balance out. Based on the description, this one should have been better, but it really isn't. (This one has perfect tip and original tassels but significantly more fading to the front and thinning of the body of the felt; doesn't display as nicely; graphic harder to see.) Still, all things considered, a decent pennant albeit not a holy grail, and so when I saw it posted again, obviously, I kept me eye on it. I found it interesting that the additional flaws were not mentioned. My max bid was less than half of what it was before. And I won.

I would restate my opinion that these are very old and unique pennants. Was this one printed immediately after the '20 season? Who knows. I did notice in Mike Egner's guide that there is a Senators pennant that is of the same type. It is a 1933-dated pennant (can't see it clearly in the book but it reminded me that I've seen it before) reading CHAMPIONS 1933 along the wide end. Absolutely convinced that the Browns/Cardinals pennants of the late 30s/early 40s are made from the same maker. I have these. No sewn-on strip at wide end, same metal grommets attaching tassels, and underneath the grommets are little clover designs. Maybe this is a very old commemorative series ... I could imagine that perhaps in 1939 something was done to commemorate 100 years. Just a wild guess.

Anyway, Hank, Mark, Mike ... thanks. I'll keep you posted.
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