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Old 01-19-2012, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Runscott View Post
Could someone please explain the significance of the '150 only' group of 12 (or 13 or 11)? And why do you think sheets were printed containing ONLY those cards? At the time that the first sheets were printed, I don't think ATC knew which cards would NOT be included in the '350' group.

I'm sure this information is presented somewhere, but it eludes me.
Scott I know you want proof so I'll do the best I can.

ATC knew they were printing more than one series from the beginning. The first Sporting Life ad says "First Series-150 Subjects." This shows ATC intending on there being at least two series. You can't have a first without a second.

When the first series began being printed that included the Sovereign 150 backs it totaled exactly 150 subjects. When the second print group was first printed it totaled exactly 200 subjects. That's a grand total of 350.

Research shows that the 150 subjects were chosen in early 1909 to be included in the set. Along with documentation like the Ball letter, team designations show this.

If you also carefully study the subjects from print group 2 you will find they were chosen at the same time. Only a few major league subjects that changed teams after the start of the 1909 season had their team designations updated prior to the start of the print group 2 production in 1910.

There are 13 subjects that are referred to as 150 Only. All of these subjects were part of print group 1.

The Magie/Magee correction was not considered a new subject by ATC. They simply viewed it as a correction of an existing subject.

The same goes for the George Brown team change. ATC did not view team changes like this, Dahlen, Elberfeld and others as a new subject. Just an update to an existing subject. There is proof of this in the numbers. If you would like for me to go into it further I will.

The only difference in the remaining 10 that can be found only with 150 Subjects backs is that they were discontinued earlier than the rest of the group. This happened prior to the print group 1 subjects being printed with 350 Subjects backs. I have not seen any evidence that they were printed any differently than the other 140 original 150 Subjects throughout the 150 Series.
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