[travrosty]

eventually you will get one returned, and then the guarantee to pass jsa or psa won't look as good as an option.

that boxing piece had three big time signatures on it that go for 300-500 apiece, (Sharkey, Corbett, Jeffries) making it a 1000 dollar + item if the signatures were legit. they arent, but got two certs from the two big companies anyway.

I used to guarantee to pass psa or jsa also, but then jsa knocked down an obviously good sonny liston i had that held up a 1300 dollar sale. a few weeks later jsa certed that same piece as good.

my friend sold a bob fitzsimmons signed photo that is good, and psa knocked it down and the buyer sued my friend. The buyer lost as my friend showed up in court and showed that psa opinion is just that, an opinion and in many cases they are dead wrong.

I should know about these things as not too long ago PSA asked me to be their boxing autograph consultant expert because they didn't have one and said they needed help in boxing. I didn't want to do it because of their organizational setup in how they authenticate and their unwillingness to reform their policies and procedures. That's how this "James Jeffers" nonsense like this gets passed.

They still need help and still don't have anyone who knows boxing.

The authentication route is fraught with pitfalls when they don't know what they are doing. There is no shame in putting up something "as is". People can make there own informed decision and get opinions from people they trust before they buy.

There is a dichotomy in autograph collecting right now. On one hand some people are interested in finding out if somethins is real. On the other hand some people want resale value and optimized marketability, but these two thibgs are not necessarily inclusive and the same thing, and many times are not. It's two different kinds of people collecting for two different reasons, neither reason is wrong by itself but the trick is to get resale value AS WELL as a great opinion on to the authenticity of the piece and psa and jsa only have one of these bases covered unfortunately.

Travis Roste


I agree that the Psa-Jsa boxing piece I showed is totally pathetic and it is as bad as other Forensics opinions, but the people who bash the Forensics opinion never have anything to say about Psa or Jsa when they do similar things.