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Old 12-24-2011, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseygary View Post
Unless my eyes are going, does his cap lack the Cincinnati "C" on it? If it is missing then this is definitely taken at spring training - the Reds used plain caps during the spring, that is, navy crown and red brim, no "C". I've seen countless spring training shots of the Reds circa 1938-41 and this is so. Not quite sure why, but maybe because once the rosters were settled the guys going with the big club had a "C" sewn on and those guys going to a minor league affiliate got what ever letter went with that teams uniform. Or maybe plain caps were cheap and disposed after spring training, who knows? The Brooklyn Dodgers also had a giveaway sign that a picture was taken at spring training - the "B" was embroidered on a separate piece of wool and then sewn onto the cap. When opening day came around these were exchanged for a regular cap with the "B" direct embroidered on the cap. The 1940's Pittsburgh Pirates were the same as Brooklyn.
Gary and others that have attempted to help,

Merry Christmas!

I just received the actual 1938 Vander Meer photo today. Now that I have examined it up close, I can tell you that there definately is a Cincinnati "C" on the front of Vandy's hat, so not spring training. I have uploaded a better scan to look at this photo with more detail.

Additionally, I have scanned the back. It appears that the photo was taken by photographer William C. Greene from NY. It does appear that this photo ran in a Sunday edition of a NY area paper (see note on back indicating that the "photo crop as seen- Sunday".

I'm thinking that this photo was taken of Vander Meer in the visiting dugout of either the Polo Grounds or Ebbets Field in 1938.

Can any board member either confirm that the dugout shown is either the Polo Grounds or Ebbets or absolutely elimiminate either or both?
Also, have any of you early photo experts ever heard of a photographer named William C. Greene from NY?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy holidays!

Last edited by Scott Garner; 12-24-2011 at 01:10 PM.
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