[barrysloate]

Dan- nobody has complained more on this board about how poorly OJ's are graded than me, but we all know that going in. If you have one with a gem front but some paper loss on the back, you will get hammered. You had to know that when you submitted. I know, it stinks, but it's never going to change. Graders obsess over technical flaws, often missing the big picture. The fact that a card may otherwise be a gem doesn't seem to sway them. But we know it, so you either have to work within the system or keep them raw.

And on the other thread, you complained about the poor crowds at the show. That isn't hard to figure out either. When nearly ever dealer puts his material out at double retail, consumers will stop wasting their time traveling to these shows. A show is a good place to catch up with old friends, but a terrible place to get a fair deal. Collectors will continue to avoid them. Shows are not part of the hobby's future, but a piece of its past.