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					Originally Posted by rainier2004  I grew up loving topps so this is my view...pick somewhere else to spray your negativity. | 
	
 Does that mean that you consider the 1958 Topps Stan Musial AS card his rookie?  How about the 1998 Topps Alex Rodriguez?  Would you call that a rookie too?
It doesn't matter how you feel about Topps, a rookie is a rookie, and these are not rookies, just like the Mantle isn't.  They are however noteworthy for being their first Topps cards, and that's it.