[Fred]

WOW!

This thread has really moved along... for those that don't want to read the whole thing this is a very general summary:

Higher grade GAI Card that is mislabeled is purchased by someone that is not happy that SGC has deemed the card is trimmed. Buyer would like a refund (over $1K) for the ebay purchase. The seller clearly indicated NO RETURNS ACCEPTED in the ebay item description. Buyer also indicated the following:

"not really looking for sympathy here and may not get any--just wanted to vent. Also thought you'd like to know a little about this seller if you were thinking of bidding on his auctions."

Opinions/observations that have been made:

- Some people say that the seller should refund the $$$.

- Others say the item description was clear and it was a TPG card that is encapsulated.

- Some posters have made claims that the seller shill bids and to a degree have substantiated the claim. I don't know what that has to do with the topic of a return but this was an evolutionary part of this topic.

- People have indicated that if the card would have crossed over to SGC at a higher grade the buyer would have been estatic and probably not have thought to send the seller more money because the card was valued more than the actual purchase price because of a higher grade.

- Some have said since the buyer was told the card is trimmed by a different TPG the seller wants out of the deal absed on a different opinion from another TPG. In this case some people believe that you just roll the dice when you buy a card encapsulated by a TPG. TPGs provide "their" subjective opinion about a card and if 4 different TPGs look at the card you could get 4 completely different opinions.

- People obviously have their opinions and there are many differing views on the topic. The discussion is getting a little heated - If it continues this thread is on its way to becoming ' "a train wreck of a thread". Something we haven't had to deal with for a while...

At least it hasn't turned into a total battle royale...