You guys have misconstrued and twisted the entire gist of this thread. I know that you wont go back and
start reading it from post #1. Therefore, I'll reprise the two salient features of this thread......
(1) My original contention is......I find it quite mystifying that Joe Jax was not portrayed in any major T or E
sets during his glory years (1911-1920). American Lithograph (ALC) had his image in their 1910 OLD MILL set.
American Caramel (ACC) depicted him in their 1908 E90 set. Both these major BB card producers never again
included him in their subsequent sets.
NOTE..the 1915 E106 and the 1916 T216 issues (Kotton, MINO & Virginia Extra) are all derived from the E90
set images; therefore, it begs the question....WHY ISN"T JOE JAX IN THESE SETS ?
It is as basic as that. I did not accuse ATC of being predjudiced towards ballplayers from the "deep South".
However, it was quite strange that very few are in the T206 set. That leads us to the next mystery......
(2) The four T206 Ty Cobb cards are represented by most of their respective series tobacco advertisements.
But, none of them exist with the HINDU backs.
Furthermore, the T205 Ty Cobb was printed with 6 tobacco backs, but not the HINDU back. Perhaps, these
facts don't excite your curiosity....but, they certainly do mine. Therefore, I suggested that the Rochester, NY
factory (#649) that produced the HINDU brand for whatever reason did NOT want Cobb inserted in their cigar-
ette packs.
This is what it is. And, I simply put all this out there to encourage some meaningful discussion on these 2 topics.
Instead, I've had to put up with the usual "gotcha" game from a bunch of uninformed naysayers.
Look, the predjudice towards rookie players from the "boonies" of South Carolina (Joe Jax) or Georgia (Cobb) by
the team owners, their teammates, and the sports media of that era (circa 1900-1919) is well documented. For
example, take Connie Mack, he only scouted Colleges for his recruits, as he didn't think the coaching in the Minor
Leagues was as good as the College coaching.
Hey look guys, it wasn't just the South that was still fighting the Civil War.....it was also many in the North that
were still very bitter over the War and Southerners.
Sorry, on this lengthy reprise, but I'm at the point where I feel that it's futile to try and present some thought-
provoking topics on this forum....anymore.
TED Z
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