Rob- I really don't think a discussion of grading service improprieties is off topic at all. Shill bidding was not the only fun activity at Mastro Auctions. I am certain that when the company had a big submission of raw cards consigned by an important client they sent a lobbyist with the cards to discuss grades (hey, if we're only getting a 6 on this one then I want an 8 on that one). Remember, they were a full service auction company.
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