no I always put them into the sleeves and then loaders and place them in the box. I use a deep check box and lay then on the side and they store great. What did you pay on amazon??? I was the first person on the market to get these from BCW and now everyone has them and Pro-mold launched last summer but I strive to be the cheapest. I found that as long as there is a little pressure on the loader they do not come out. Great idea and would love to see a pick when you are done. Also remember I have screwdowns for these great cards now in case you have some you are skittish about leaving in a book.

Andrew