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Old 07-09-2009, 09:55 PM
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Nice thread, Leon. Thanks for starting it...

Steve, I'd not seen that card of Seaton, that's a great card!!!




The caption says McCredie, Mgr., Captl, Port.

So who is he??

SABR's minor league site says William H. McCreedie managed Portland, 1905-1917, 1919-1921, & 1934, with other places in between. But McCreedie didn't play anywhere. And, the site says that Walter Henry "Judge" McCredie played at Portland 1904-1913, 1916 & 1917. Walt was in the majors at Brooklyn in 1903, hit .324. Dennis Snelling's PCL book has the manager as W. McCreedie. On page 90 of Fred W. Lange's History of Baseball in California and Pacific Coast Leagues he shows Portland's right fielder as Walter McCreedie. That's with 2 e's. (I've yet to read this book through, I now see Lange mentions 3 Zamloch brothers, Claud, Carl, and Archie... I thought there was but one, I have to read this book.) Finally, in the Zingg and Medeiros book, Runs, Hits, and an Era, on page 26 they mention "player - manager Walter McCredie" and on page 24 "Portland owner Judge W.W. McCredie..."

So is there an extra 'e' there, are they different folks, are they the same guy? Who's on the card?

I want to think that the owner was some guy "Judge W.W. McCredie; and that the player was Walter or Walt McCreedie, that he's the guy on the card, and the card has omitted one of the 'e's.... but I can be convinced otherwise.
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