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Originally Posted by Wesley
I agree Marty. When I read the NY Daily Times article yesterday, I thought it was odd that Dave Forman was buying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cards, and consigning cards on such a large scale with Mastro. I was wondering whether any of the consigned cards were graded by SGC.
Glyn confirmed my worst fears about SGC: Not only does the principal in one of the major grading companies have cards graded by his own company, but there is also no anonymity in the grading room as far as who is submitting the cards. These revelations are disturbing to me on so many different levels.
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Man you guys can really go off with assumptions all over the place.
WE HAVE NO IDEA IF DAVE EVEN BOUGHT CARDS!!!!!!
People are just assuming Dave bought cards but we don't KNOW that as a fact.
I think forming opinions without hardly any facts is foolish at best.
I think there are several issues here
1) Do the graders know who owns the cards before they grade them.
I doubt this.
2) Did Dave or someone close to him submit raw cards for grading.
I don't know the answer to this yet, perhaps the cards he sold were all graded before he became involved with SGC. Again WE DON'T KNOW.
3) Did Dave sell SGC graded cards, raw cards or what.
Again we have no idea what he sold.
4) Did Dave buy cards at all.
Again we don't know what the heck he bought, people are assuming he bought cards and in the few times I have met him and been to the SGC offices I know that his interests go beyond sports cards. I would have no problem with Dave buying a Ruth bat or other such item.
I don't know Glyn, but I would like to know who knew what. He was a grader so is he saying Dave just walked in and asked the graders to grade a pile of cards for him. I find this hard to believe.
Again I am not saying Dave is innocent of screwing up but to make assumptions about what he did or did not do and what he sold is stupid at this point.
At this point with this going to court I am not sure what else will come out but it may be some time before many of the above questions get answered.
Out of all the grading services I have used, PSA, BGS, SGC for cards, CGC for comics and AFA for toys, SGC has always had the best customer service and has been very consistent with the grades I have received.
I have no reason to doubt the service they provide and the integrity of the company as a whole.
James G