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denniswhen i first saw these auctions i was(am) convinced that they are fake and that they even fooled sgc.(or are fakes in slabs) they just look like the last batch of fakes that were sold by a good seller and they fooled him (and i believe he refunded or did not deliver them to his buyers)what i remember about those was that they were all in that brown color as were most of these. as frank pointed out he has a graded gehrig and he also sold a ruth in a sgc slab. brad (lefty grove collector) had a grove he thought was fake and it had those big borders like the one hrbaker bought today. i guess brad did say he thought it was fake,but it did look "good". after a lot of thought i decided to not bid on about 6 cards inc. the grove. i really wanted the graded ruth he had but decided to pass as i still really think it's fake in a sgc slab.(maybe tampered) all that said, i ended up winning 2 of the cards at low prices(cy williams&f.lindstrom)so i'll decide when i get them. i did win this ruth tonite from a different seller.