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Keith O'LearyI just started them in the last 6 months or so Greg. Not all that easy to find but they do come up from time to time on ebay (they were a premium which I'm sure you know although I don't see em as much as Turkey Reds
). I've been able to pick up 4 nice ones (including the Williams) so far. Feel free to email me if ya wanna talk about em. Heres mine. Keith