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randyo Dan, i love ya (mainly because you have not threatened to kill me at a show for $10 & even much more importantly you are/were a fellow Beavis & Butthead fan)but you statement :
Rand, give up grading and become a true collector, we would love to have you on our side. Dan
makes me laugh because you have a plethora of graded cards and know 100% you can't sell'em without the plastic for full value... how's that taste