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BobI agree with Dan 100%. There are some old timers out there who have incredible collections of ungraded cards. Maybe no one can match Lionel Carter but there are some real treasure troves around. I know one good friend who has an incredible collection of caramel cards which he purchased in the 70's and 80's which are sitting in a box, all raw, in his attic. There is also a near set of T213-2s in there. He hasn't even checked on them in at least 15 years despite my pleas. He was a caramel card collector when caramel cards weren't cool 
I remember rolling my eyes at him when we pursued the mid 1950 and 1960 cards and when I first started collecting tobacco cards. I thought he was buying "junk" by grabbing up all those E90-E99 cards. He certainly got the last laugh on all of us.