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Posted By: David Atkatz

And Joe, I agree with everything you said in your last post--except who is to blame for this mess.

You are absolutely right about today's students. They are unwilling to take responsibility for anything. It's always someone else's fault--especially the professor's.

But students have always been coming to prof's offices, asking for higher grades for the crap they've produced.

In the last decade or so, many have given in to them--it's called "grade inflation."

Who's responsible?

We, the professors are. We know those grades are undeserved, but we give them--and get wonderful student evaluations, which lead to promotions, etc.

Of course the students ask for higher grades. They have nothing to lose, and much to gain. It should be up to those that know better, though, to not give in, especially for their own self-serving reasons.

BTW, I am a physics professor. I don't give credit for non-rigorous bull****, and my evaluations suffer for it.

Ce la vie.