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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hey Bill.

My understanding is that it is not that the factory 25 VA cards are more difficult, but that the later series are more difficult. Seems to me that by the time Fatima was packaging the later series cards with packages of cigarettes that factory 42 NC had abandoned using cards altogether. I think factory 42 NC cards are the more difficult of the two factory possibilities. And those higher series cards are quite difficult.

For a few years I tried to get a Lelivelt Fatima card, but in recent years the demand for the card has grown to the point that I doubt I ever manage to buy one. I always like seeing scans of the Lelivelt card.

FW