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1880nonsportscan be really scary - especially little known or infrequently encountered examples. There's always a leap of faith somewhere on the continuum. There's possibly an alarm or two on these cards or the listing but nothing definitive. Guess in part that's why there are grading companies or forums like this board. I'm always leary of overly damaged rare cards - especially on the internet. I used to work at the Metropolitan Opera in NY. Great job and what went on behind the scenes and in it's bowels was incredible. My office abutted the scenic shop for a few years and some of the most interesting things I learned came from someone whose job it was to "distress" fabrics and scenery. The effects he could produce (RIP G - died from AIDS complications) were amazing. Even in person one could easily be fooled - and these were larger items - imagine cards. So much easier in cyberspace with fancy picture programs and uber copiers. If I were still collecting rare types and/or whatever - had the person offered but a single type and I wasn't already leary about buying on the internet and the card's "distess" - I could see myself pulling the trigger if I could afford it.... They "look" pretty good but I have no exemplars. Perhaps I could get Mr. Moralass to authenticate them online for me.