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nbraziljeff..you are absolutely right. I got out of the pre war rookie hunt a month or so ago because there were cards that 1.) Were so expensive that I knew that i would never get one even if it popped up on mastro/REA/ebay/Net54 BST and/or 2.) So ugly to me that the only reason why i would own it would be because somehow i managed to convince myself that it was a rookie card. Add in the difficulty of defining what a rookie card is and I just threw my hands up and decided to collect the best looking pre war card (in my opinion) for each HOF'er and then focus on rookie cards for post war, where there is a general consensus on an established rookie and the prices wont cost me an arm and a leg.