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dougthe E 121s and E 120s are very hard to find in PSA 8 and above. In fact they are almost non-existent. There are only 3 PSA 8s of the E120s graded (I happen to have one of them) and a handful more of the E121s graded 8 or higher. In fact you would have a hard time building a PSA 5 or better of the E121 set as many of the cards have no examples graded higher than PSA 5. In reality you would probably have to settle for PSA 4s and above (and that would still be a challenge) unless you ran across a big hoard of sweet condition 1920's Caramels. the prices of these cards in decent shape have really started to take off as collectors are realizing how challenging these are to find in decent shape. I really like the E121s and E120s.