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Dave FI do think there is a big difference in what Jim has done on the board and what Bruce has done. Don't remember how far it was up this thread now, but I think someone mentioned something about the people that Jim and Bruce have both chased off...while Jim can be hard headed and easy to differ on opinions with...he is far from Bruce...Jim isn't a threat to anyone, nor has he ever to my knowledge spewed any hate or ill will to anyone.