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Old 09-22-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Irrational Exuberance Low Number High Grade 1933 Goudeys

Posted By: Kevin Saucier

I have no problem showing my various alterations that have been graded but as typical I find your arrogance and demeaning tone insulting to say the least.

Here are just "a few" examples of some cards that were not just slightly altered or simply soaked....those can always get past. These were testing the limits in various ways.

I can only imagine this will still not satisfy your relentless attempt to try and degrade and demoralize. I am quite sure that you will find some other way to continue your antagonistic questioning.

If you do some research you will find plenty of examples I have posted in the past. Is it not enough that I try to help by posting educational material?






Erasers are too easy. These were chemically treated instead. Seems PSA and SGC had no problems bumping the grades. I believe Cohen was also retoned.





Each of these cards had harsh or large stains removed with various chemicals. Each was bumped by two grades...Easterly was bumped 3 grades, it was a BVG 1.




There is still a clear mark left intentionally on back along with some ink loss. It was also retoned.




Graciously given to me by a collector friend. This card had a rebuilt corner and two "very obviously" trimmed edges. It took several steps and a lot of time to make it look normal. That includes giving the trimmed edges vintage-like cuts, which proves that a trimmed card can be made to look untrimmed... not easy to do at all.





Testing the limits, this card was put in about 6 different chemicals. The last one I thought would melt the card. It was submitted with such a strong odor that it was almost unbelievable that a hazmat team was not called. Instead they graded it a 6. There is also a very obvious stain that was partially left on the back.





Stains and marks removed with a bleaching solution and sent in without deodorizing or trying to mask the alteration. You can see a bleached-out spot on front. Also, I can still see the indentation marks on the back...yet it still passed.

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The mother of all doctoring examples:


This was a T206 Rube Marquard card purchased with a huge glob of almost unremovable glue on the back, stained, dirty and dinged. In this condition it was virtually ungradeable and I doubt it would have even been slabbed "authentic" based on the relatively low value and poor condition.

In all, this card went through over 30 steps, again to test the limits. This goes far beyond doctoring.

It was placed in several different chemicals, bleached and rebleached about 4 times - each time using a different solution, toned and retoned a few times, dings removed, plus soaked dried at least a dozen times. The entire process took a couple weeks.

Here is the card in the middle of the process. Note the glue has been removed (not by water) and it is shown in one of the "many" bleached-out stages.



Here is how the card looked once completed. Submitted as you see it and without being deodorized.





If you notice there are no examples of GAI graded cards. Mike Baker (who I consider a friend and colleague) and I have a gentleman's agreement. Years ago he invited me down to Global's HQ and, after viewing a few very high-end altered cards, asked that I not try to get any past him. I have honored my word since. I now bring all my doctored cards to him. He gets full explanations and I reveal all my secrets. This is, in his opinion and mine, how the best gets better.



Kevin Saucier

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