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Posted By: jay behrens

Joan I noticed that joker too and that was my first thought, the guy should be arrest. I was also wondering when MLB is going to raise security for events like this. I may have missed it, but I never saw a shot of McCovey Cove, so I'm wondering if they blocked that off and kept all the boats out. I had thought about that too, because of the ball had ended up in the ball, I felt there was a serious chance that someone could end drowning, or be held under water in order to get the ball from them. If I remember right, the guy that got the ball was bloodied a bit adn I am sure others were too. I'm not a fan of suing people, but if someone got seriously hurt in that scrum, I hope they MLB and the Giants for lack of security.

Tony, Mac doesn't belong in the HOF to begin with. The guy is a one trick pony and there are already too many of them in the HOF. Mac was a horrific 1B, legged many a double into singles and if he didn't hit a HR, he pretty much didn't get a hit. Not my idea of a HOFer.

Jason, let's be very clear about this,

1) there is no proof that Bonds cheated. If you ahve proof that has cheated that no one else has, please give it to the federal prosecutors so they can proceed with their case against him.
2) Bud Selig IS to blame for all of this. When Mac was caught with Andro, he could have stepped in a done something, but didn't. He turned a blind eye to it all because it lined his pockets and those of the his owner buddies.
3) But Aaron did make the statement, so who are you to say that he feels otherwise? Are you close personal friends with Mr Aaron?
4)Guess we will just put an end to all athletic competition then because cheating goes on at every level in every sport. It would be nice to live in a sporting world of the Olympic Dream, but it's never gonna happen, not even in the Olympics.

Jeff, Clemens has managed escape most allegation because he conveniently skipped spring training and the earliest part of the season, which just happens to be when most of the random drug testing happens. Plus, his dome has grown almost as much as Barry's. It cracks me up that people will find all sorts of excuses for Clemens, yet people don't find it suspicious that a guy at his age can skip huge chunks of the season and yet keep performing as well or better than most of the pitchers playing today.

Marc your arguments for Ruth are cherry picked. Yes, there were carvenous parts of old ball parks, there were also parks like Sportsmans in St Louis that had ridculously short right field porches. Someone in SABR research how many HRs Ruth hit into that porch in his 60 HR season and how many Jimmy Foxx hit there in his 58 HR season. It was determined that Ruth would have lost 4 HRs if had to hit the ball over the fence that Foxx had to hit his HRs over. It was also determined that Foxx had at least 2 hits go off the fence. These would have been HRs under Ruth's conditions. Ruth didn't have to face pitching specialists and because there were only 8 teams and 4 man rotation, he basically got to see the same 28 pitchers over and over again. How many more HRs would Bonds have hit he only had to different pitchers all season? The supposed watered down pitch staff argument has been disproven many times. I can gaurentee you that the 4th and 5th starts of today are much better than 3rd and 4th starters of Ruth era and most likely better than 2nd starter on many of weaker teams. If Ruth played today and had access to all the drugs that are available, given his personality type, he would have most likely OD'd before his playing career was over. Your claim that Bonds has zero defensive skill to absolutely laughable. Did you ever seen him play early in his career? You want to look at Mark McGwire for the definition of no defensive skills what so ever.



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