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P SpaethCorey these are all good points but the essence of what you are saying (simplifying slightly of course) is that, for vintage cards, third party authentication is meaningless. Perhaps that is so, and certainly there are adherents of that view on this board and elsewhere, but I doubt that at this point -- given the general acceptance of third party grading -- a tribunal would agree with that. If third party grading is meaningful, I can't see a tribunal imposing a general duty to independently examine a card on an auction house -- not to mention of course the practical difficulties of examining edges inside a slab etc. etc.