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randamazing info, the other post was fantastic to (rebuilt corners). i dont think i would have had any way to see these examples or explanations any better in any other forum. here is a good question for you..when PSA started out, did they have the knowledge and these types of lights to detect this stuff? there is still plenty of high grade material out there with the old psa print on the tags. I wonder how many highend cards would get the same grade today? thx again