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Posted By: JimB

Two points:

1) The card in that newspaper photo could not both need trimming and be the McNall/Gretzky Wagner in my opinion. Though it is near impossible to tell if there is wavyness from the photo, one can get a general sense of the size of the boarders. That card is not oversized and if it were trimmed further, I think it would be undersized. The holdered PSA 8 is not undersized.

2) Alan Ray seems to resent that Bill Mastro has made a lot of money off the card and bargained hard to get it from Ray at the best price/deal possible. Yet he simultaneously claims that Mastro must have trimmed the card to sell it as "mint" while Ray himself sent out the word to a nearby show that he had a "mint" Wagner to sell. It was upon hearing this that Bill Mastro responding and went to go buy the card. Something is not adding up.

JimB