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Eric BrehmT206Collector -- well I suppose you are right that given that you know what your maximum bid really is (which is what I am advocating), it is best to show your hand at the last possible microsecond, given the technology at hand. It smacks of poor ethics, but who cares about that sort of thing any more. I guess what I am trying to say is that, on eBay, or in any other auction format, the key to success is being able to figure out what your maximum bid should be, not trying to outsmart other bidders by placing bids in a certain way or at a certain time. But who cares -- screw anyone you can to get what you want should be the goal, I guess.