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Old 04-23-2007, 06:09 AM
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Default Does Warren Spahn Receive Enough Glory

Posted By: Dylan

Someone made the arguement of why not Ford listed with Feller, and seeing as how Feller is listed around #5 on many of the lists above it makes me wonder how you can omit Bob Gibson completely. A lot of people have Koufax(if your going to include Koufax you should consider Dizzy Dean as well) on their list and Seaver gets no love. Seaver put up great numbers and did it a lot longer and is a 300 game winner. It seems the closer we get to the modern era the more impressive a guys stats have to be to even be considered. When in reality you cant compare dead ball pitchers stats to modern pitchers stats. But there's a few players who's stats fit right in in any era. Tom Seaver being one of them. And judging from the numbers it looks like Plank could get a little more attention when talking of all time greats as well. And when considering pitchers of the dead ball era there are some impressive 19nth century players who are overlooked as well.
(Sample stats from different eras HOF's)
Alexander 373-208 ERA 2.56
Plank 326-194 ERA 2.35
Mordecai 239-130 ERA 2.06
Bender 212-127 ERA 2.46

Grove 300-141 ERA 3.06
Hubbell 253-154 ERA 2.98
Dean 150-83 ERA 3.02
Pennock 240-162 ERA 3.60

Feller 266-162 ERA 3.25
Gibson 251-174 ERA 2.91
Ford 236-106 ERA 2.75
Seaver 311-205 ERA 2.86
Koufax 165-87 ERA 2.76

Pitchers from 19nth century
Keefe 342-225 ERA 2.62
Nichols 361-208 ERA 2.95(left ML Career early to play out west)
Clarkson328-178 ERA 2.81
Welch 307-210 ERA 2.71

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