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brianDave mentioned two brothers who had a huge collection. I think I might know who he is talking about and one of them might have already passed away. Also, years ago there was a card show at the Hillsdale county fairgrounds. This guy drives up to the show from out of state in a van full of locked suitcases packed with graded cards to sell at a table he rented. He was way out of place bringing high grade tobacco cards that nobody could afford and with no security. I never saw anything like that before or since.