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DaveActually Joe is probably right....I forgot that most of my Old Judge cards have back damage of some kind or another. I also like think it's a good idea to spend the money on "authentication" from SGC just to protect these type of cards from further damage. I've been told that some of the Pinkish and fading Old Judges will eventually degrade to the point that you can't see them no matter what type of holder the card is in. I don't know if that's true or not, a photographer once told me that.